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Whatever happened to... Venus in Furs

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Whatever happened to... a column about lost and forgotten legends from the dark scene since the late 70s. Those musicians may have been forgotten because of different reasons. My aim is, to bring them back to life by researching, what happened to them and by preserving information about them and their music.

Venus in Furs/The Brothers Christ/Times

By chance I found an old vinyl a few years ago at a flea-market. I never heard of the band before. Nonetheless, the cover was appealing to me and so I bought it. For quite some time the LP was laying around in my room, I forgot about it, until one Sunday evening I played for the first time, what soon after and till today would become one of my favourite bands.

The first episode of my new column Whatever happened to... I am dedicating to one of my most favourite projects out of the post-punk scene, Venus in Furs. There was always something mysterious about them, as there is hardly any information available.

On the music portal LastFM the entry of Venus in Furs is mostly occupied by a fictional band of the same name as appeared on the soundtrack to Velvet Goldmine. The less I found about them, the more mysterious Venus in Furs became, the more I was motivated to find out more.

After some time I got my first hints. Venus in Furs started as a band, but later continued as a duo. The mastermind of the band was multi-instrumentalist Times. Times also had a one-album side-project, called The Brothers Christ, and after the last Venus in Furs album continued to make instrumental music under the name Times.


Venus in Furs
1983 Extended Play
1984 Platonic Love
1985 Strip
1986 Real Moral Fibre
1989 Megalomania
1990 The Speed of a Pun
1996 Womberang
1998 Soft Life

The Brothers Christ
1987 Echoes of Lost Souls

1999 Scant Polyphony
2000 Nuit blanche à Paris
2003 Venusberg

Musical Style

The musical style of Venus in Furs is hard to describe. It is very diverse, as there is no red thread through the songs. The music seems to be an experiment. The length of the tracks differ from below one minute to over 14 minutes.

Characteristic for Times' music is the massive use of synthesizer melodies and effects, but also of distorted guitars. Mostly the songs have a long instrumental intro, until finally Times' characteristic punk-inspired vocals set in. The lyrics are usually hard to understand, as they are not louder than the instrumentation.

Their first EP Extended Play is very much inspired by The Velvet Underground. There is hardly any synthesizer yet. On the first full-length album, Platonic Love, the synthesizer took the place of the guitar as main leading instrument. Some of the more accessible songs, such as "Almost", "Sondown" and "Love Lies" could be easily categorized as synth-pop.

In 1987 Times (under the name Jeremy Christ) and Colin Johnson released the album Echoes of Lost Souls with the project The Brothers Christ. In fact, there is not much difference to the music produced with Venus in Furs. You can call it the lost ViF-album, if you'd like to.


Venus in Furs are a perfect example for a band that came out of the post-punk-explosion. Their music has elements from punk, synth-pop and dark wave. The whole oeuvre is in low quality, which gives it a special atmosphere.

For those, who prefer the punk sound I recommend the songs from the earlier albums, like "This First Wild Kiss" and "All Night Party". The songs "Majordomo" and "Platonic Love" are epic and slow, in the vein of Joy Division's "Atmosphere".

The admirers of synthesizers should give the tracks "Almost", "Love Lies" and "Sondown" a listen. Those songs I would consider the hits of Venus in Furs.

As mentioned above, fans of The Velvet Underground will enjoy the EP Extended Play. The song "Memento Mori" is a spoken story, like The Velvet Underground's "The Gift".

I would like to mention one from the lesser known pieces, "From the Bell-Jar", as it became one of my most-listened tracks of all times. At the first listen I had to think of New Order's "Bizarre Love Triangle". A long time I have tried to figure out the lyrics, as they are really hard to understand. Times vocals sound as if they are coming out of some undefined darkness, the modulations from very deep to very high make one shiver. A deep-going song, associating the beautiful despair.

From The Brothers Christ album I recommend "The Void" with its steamy sounds and "Too Late", which could be a ViF-song from one of the first albums.

The project Times is mainly instrumental music. Scant Polyphony is a classical piano-album, very good background-music, when you have to concentrate. The title song (also the last on the album) is amazing! The other two albums are synthesizer-music. Here the track "Pop-Telerama" became one of my favourites.

Whatever happened to Times?

If you want to write to Times, you can do this on his fanpage on facebook, "Venus in Furs / Times". But also there you cannot find very much information about him. The page is not maintained by Times himself, like this post shows:
"Please note, this is not Times of VIF, but Oleg of Other Voices Records. I run this page for him (and under his permission). You may contact me via [email protected]."

On Other Voices Records Times distributed his albums, which can be found on the internet under It is worth to be checked out, as this label's "main interest is 80s new wave and its subgenres".

So, at least we know that Times is still alive.

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Add date: 2012-01-19 / Articles

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